Unable to see 2nd laptop on home network

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  1.    1 Week Ago #1

    Unable to see 2nd laptop on home network


    hi there so I have 2 laptops on my home network.
    previously I used homegroup to share files between computers and this was obviously stopped.
    I then just created a workgroup and shared files that way.

    however i noticed a couple of weeks ago that from Laptop 1 I physically cant see Laptop 2 on the network if I browse for it.

    I use Free File Sync to keep the music folder between the 2 in sync , if I use the whole network command \\computername\folder etc then FFS will find Laptop 2 and the sync will work

    However If I want to just copy some files to Laptop 2 from 1 I cant as I cant see it.
    Laptop 2 cant see Laptop 1 on the network.

    Ive done some googling and seen all sorts about SMB , file sharing etc which is just putting me in a spin.

    I dont recall having done anything recently to the laptops to make this change take place.

    Also Laptop 1 has PIN credentials Laptop 2 has a password (when I set it to PIN file sharing stopped) & up to a couple of weeks ago this worked perfectly.

    TIA Bart
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  2. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       1 Week Ago #2

    Hi Bart

    What version of Win 10 is installed and do you know if either got a feature update in the last two weeks. Like 1803 or 1809.

    Windows key +R, type winver, enter

    Check windows update history, if a feature update was installed it will be right near top and there won't be much history.

    Are both laptops on the private network or is either using the public definition. If you go into Network and Internet withing "Settings" and click change connection properties it will show you public or private.
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  3.    1 Week Ago #3

    Thanks a bunch Ken

    So both running 1803
    Both have had updates recently
    Cumulative updates
    Update for win 10 KB4100347
    Etc

    Both were also on PUBLIC networks and not private.

    Laptop 1 I managed to change to private when I clicked change connection properties

    Laptop 2 when I click change connection properties it goes into the properties of my wifi network BUT no option to switch between public and private?..?
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  4. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       1 Week Ago #4

    On your public one you could forget network and then try to establish a new connection.

    This is strange that you can't set.

    In this tutorial it talks to sharing and maybe you might be able to set in Advance Sharing settings

    Share Files and Folders Over a Network in Windows 10
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  5.    1 Week Ago #5

    Tried a couple of times to forget the network, restart the pc and try again but it when I reconnect to the wifi it doenst give me options to choose public or private.

    Still no option to change connection settings

    I tried a couple of the windows 10 suggestions but to no avail.

    How else can I get the pc to establish a new connection altogether?
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  6. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       1 Week Ago #6

    Not sure how many devices you have connected to router but a simple way would be to rename your WI-Fi network name.
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  7.    1 Week Ago #7

    If I did that would that then ask each device to create a new connection to it and then for the laptops it would allow me to. Make them both private?
    I have quite a few devices but I could do this if it's going to fix the issue
    Any idea why this has stopped working?
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  8.    1 Week Ago #8

    Hi Ken

    I tried renaming the network and it didn't give me the option to set up public or private network.

    I then reset the router and on laptop 1 it did ask me if I wanted to make thw pc discoverable. But for laptop 2 it didn't ask me this and made it public.

    However within the network folder I was now able to see both computers.

    I shared the folders I wanted on laptop 1 and then on laptop 2 I was able to see these folders once I logged into laptop 1 with my username and password via the network

    As laptop 2 is win home I wasn't able to to use the secpol. MSc option to change it via local policy
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  9. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       1 Week Ago #9

    Something strange is going on with Laptop 2.

    It sounds like you have it working. If not Laptop 2 would be a candidate for clean install. Yes I know the work but it should not default to public.

    You've gone deeper than I normally travel with secpol changes. The registry and group policies can be a slippery slope unless you really know the ins and outs.
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  10.    1 Week Ago #10

    I do have an image for laptop 2 and it is my back up laptop. I could try to re image it.

    I didn't try making any group policy changes partly cos I couldn't and also cos I don't know enough about them

    As a rule of thumb before you take an image of a machine do you do anything particular?
    The only thing I do is clear all the event logs?
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